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Richildis of ("Richilde of Arles") Turin

F, #8851, b. about 822, d. 883

Parents

FatherBoso III of East Franks Count of Turin (b. before 799, d. before 855)
MotherRichilde d' Amiens (b. about 806)

Family: Budwine (BouinBeuvesde) Count of Italy & ("Budwine Count of Italy") Metz (b. about 810, d. about 864)

SonBoso II ("Count of Vienne"), King of Burgundy+ (b. about 840, d. 887)
DaughterBuvinus of Metz (b. about 840)
DaughterRichaut of Metz+ (b. about 845)
SonRichard I Duke of ("Richard de Autun") Burgundy, The Justiciar+ (b. about 860, d. 1 September 921)

Biography

Richildis of ("Richilde of Arles") Turin was born about 822 in Turin, Italy. She died in 883, at age ~61.1
2 _UID E3EBE919-5B72-4EB5-B855-983A9A71B3A3
2 _UID 5E3FB828-913B-494A-B948-C0232F6D53B1. Richildis of ("Richilde of Arles") Turin had person sources.1 1 _UPD 02 JUN 2010 11:11:17 GMT-6.
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Citations

  1. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998

Richard I Duke of ("Richard de Autun") Burgundy, The Justiciar

M, #8852, b. about 860, d. 1 September 921

Parents

Family: Adelaide of Auxerre (b. about 872, d. 929)

SonHugh Duke of ("Hugh the Black of Burgundy") Burgundy, the Black+ (b. about 887, d. 952)
DaughterAdelaide (Alice) of Burgundy+ (b. about 895)
DaughterWilla of Burgundy (b. about 900)
DaughterRichilde of ("Richilde de Chalons") Burgundy (b. about 915)

Biography

Richard I Duke of ("Richard de Autun") Burgundy, The Justiciar, was born about 860 in Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France. He and Adelaide of Auxerre were married about 892. He died on 1 September 921, at age ~61, in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France.1
Richard I Duke of ("Richard de Autun") Burgundy, The Justiciar, had person sources.2,1 2 _UID 20A23976-F33C-499B-8B18-985FD9E3ADFC.
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 155-18
  2. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Adelaide of Auxerre

F, #8853, b. about 872, d. 929

Parents

FatherConrad II Count of Aargau & Auxerre (b. 825, d. 881)
MotherErmentrude of Alsace (b. about 840)

Biography

Adelaide of Auxerre was born about 872 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France. She and Richard I Duke of ("Richard de Autun") Burgundy, The Justiciar, were married about 892. She died in 929, at age ~57.
Also called Adelaide of Burgundy. Adelaide of Auxerre had person sources.1,2 2 _UID 20A23976-F33C-499B-8B18-985FD9E3ADFC.
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 155-18
  2. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Baudouin II Count of ("Baldwin II Count of Flanders") Flanders, The Bald

M, #8854, b. about 865, d. 10 September 918

Parents

Biography

Baudouin II Count of ("Baldwin II Count of Flanders") Flanders, The Bald, was born about 865 in Flanders, France.1 He died on 10 September 918, at age ~53.2,3,4
Baudouin II Count of ("Baldwin II Count of Flanders") Flanders, The Bald, had person sources.2,3,4
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 162-17
  2. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Baldwin II
  3. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 44-16
  4. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Baudouin I Count of ("Baldwin I Count of Flanders") Flanders, Iron Arm

M, #8855, b. 837, d. 879

Parents

FatherOdoacer Count of Harlebec (b. 810, d. 862)

Family: Judith Princess of France (b. about 846, d. 870)

DaughterWidnille of Flanders (b. about 862)
SonRudolph (Raoul) Comte de Cambrai+ (b. about 864, d. 17 June 896)
SonBaudouin II Count of ("Baldwin II Count of Flanders") Flanders, The Bald (b. about 865, d. 10 September 918)

Biography

Baudouin I Count of ("Baldwin I Count of Flanders") Flanders, Iron Arm, was born in 837 in Flanders, Nord, France. He and Judith Princess of France were married in 862 in 3rd husband.1,2,3 He died in 879, at age ~42, in Arras, Flanders now Belgium.1,3
2 _UID B14E49CB-AEB7-4271-9004-545210C4090A
2 _UID FC231857-B0BB-4BBF-9495-CDFB12529E4C


A daring warrior under Charles II, he fell in love with the King's daughter Judith, the youthful widow of 2 English kings, married her, and fled with his bride to Lorraine. At first angry, Charles eventually forgave him and made him Margrave of Flanders-changed to Count in the 10th century. Encyclopedia Britannica for Baldwin I. 1 _UID 1E0FB5B9-6A9F-43F6-8021-152C67177411. Baudouin I Count of ("Baldwin I Count of Flanders") Flanders, Iron Arm, had person sources.1,3 2 _UID B4373EA2-F350-4313-BB3A-2C05DF4F66F7.
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Citations

  1. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Baldwin I
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 162-16
  3. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Odoacer Count of Harlebec

M, #8856, b. 810, d. 862

Parents

FatherEngelram (Engeurrand) of Harlebec (b. 780, d. about 824)

Biography

Odoacer Count of Harlebec was born in 810 in Flanders, Nord, France. He died in 862, at age ~52.1
2 _UID B5D2E50F-C081-4228-BF36-BCC5E4450D98
2 _UID 1E04C4C8-651A-4C1F-93A2-29C0D4BA3CCC. Odoacer Count of Harlebec had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Engelram (Engeurrand) of Harlebec

M, #8857, b. 780, d. about 824

Parents

FatherLyderic (Liderie) Count of Harlebec (b. 750, d. about 802)

Family:

SonOdoacer Count of Harlebec+ (b. 810, d. 862)

Biography

Engelram (Engeurrand) of Harlebec was born in 780 in Flanders, Nord, France. He died about 824, at age ~44.1
1 _UPD 01 JUN 2010 18:44:29 GMT-6
2 _UID CB8764BB-222F-4B08-BF3F-FB3BFFB442E5
2 _UID F7EBD39B-8BC6-4CC2-AB3F-63D882BBFE14. Engelram (Engeurrand) of Harlebec had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Judith Princess of France

F, #8858, b. about 846, d. 870

Parents

FatherCharles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald (b. 13 June 823, d. 6 October 877)
MotherErmentrude d' Orleans (b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869)

Biography

Judith Princess of France was born about 846 in France.1 She and Aethelwulf King of Kent & Wessex were married in 856 in 1st husband 2nd wife.2 She and Aethelbald King of Wessex were married after 858 in 2nd husband.3 She and Baudouin I Count of ("Baldwin I Count of Flanders") Flanders, Iron Arm, were married in 862 in 3rd husband.4,1,5 She died in 870, at age ~24.
2 _UID 77F7E818-1E56-4851-95CE-99ED8CEC8DE3
2 _UID A8FF74E4-7F7B-402F-8DE5-AFF802A88B02


The identity of Judith, wife of Aethelwulf & Aethelbald is pieced together from three different sources.

Aethelwulf m. 856 "daughter of Charles II the Bald"

Aethelbald m. Judith, his step mother after his father Aethelwulf's death in 858.

Judith, daughter of Charles the Bald m. (3) 862 Baudouin I Count of Flanders. 1 _UID 11619EBF-924E-4184-9073-6765B8EED1A7. Judith Princess of France had person sources.4,3,2,5 2 _UID 4D19D13B-7F7A-439D-8A04-203ED42A8142. 2 _UID B4373EA2-F350-4313-BB3A-2C05DF4F66F7. 2 _UID 5F5BEAAD-2EF7-4860-B95B-4342E81A8946.
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 162-16
  2. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Aethelwulf
  3. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, Aethelbald
  4. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, Baldwin I
  5. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Charles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald

M, #8859, b. 13 June 823, d. 6 October 877

Parents

FatherLouis I ("The Pious") Holy Roman Emperor, The Pious (b. August 778, d. 20 June 840)
MotherJudith of Bavaria (b. 800, d. 19 April 843)

Family 1: Ermentrude d' Orleans (b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869)

DaughterRothildis d' Aquitaine (b. about 844, d. about 928)
DaughterJudith Princess of France+ (b. about 846, d. 870)
SonLouis II King of King d'Aquitaine France, The Stammerer+ (b. 1 November 846, d. 10 April 879)
DaughterHersent of France+ (b. 865, d. about 890)
DaughterGodehilde Princess of ("Godehilde Carolingian, Princess") France (b. about 868, d. before 907)

Family 2: Richaut of Metz (b. about 845)

DaughterRothaut Princess of France (b. about 870, d. 22 MAR 927/928)

Biography

Charles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald, was born on 13 June 823 in Frankfurt, Hessen-Nassau, Prussia.1,2 He and Ermentrude d' Orleans were married on 14 December 842 in Crecy, France.3 He and Richaut of Metz were married on 25 November 870.2 He died on 6 October 877, at age 54, in Brides-les-Bains, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France.1,2 He was buried in St Denis, Paris, Ile-de-France, France.
Charles II, King de France

(Andre Roux: Scrolls,191.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-39.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 180.)
(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Pages 369, 387).

AKA: Charles II, Emperor of the West. AKA: Charles II, King de Bourgogne. AKA: Charles II, King of Italy. Also Known As: Charles "Le Chauve".

Born: on 13 Jun 823 in Francfort-sur-le-Main, Germany, son of Louis I, King de France and Judith de Baviere , Some sources assert King Charles II was born in the year 829.

Note - between 824 and 875 in France: The birth of Charles II in 823 did not at first excite jealousy or rivalry among his brothers. In 829, Charles was granted the region of Alemannia, Rhaetia and part of Burgundy. In 837, his Father Louis I "Le Debonnaire", by arrangement with Louis the German and Pepin gave Charles the land West of the Meuse, Burgundy, Chartres and Paris together with all thebishops, abbots and counts who held benefices in these territories. A portion of Neustria was added in 838, and upon Pepin's death, Louis Le Pieux made Charles King of Aquitaine. On 24 July 840, thenew Emperor, Lothar, in Strasburg, refuses to support the land claims of Charles (from the agreement of Worms on 30 May 839). The two brothers, Louis and Charles, unite against Lothar and the War ofthe Three Brothers begins. Meanwhile, on 12 May 841, the Normands ravage Rouen and all the localities along the Seine, increasing their wealth considerably. At Fontenoy-en-Puisaye (24 June 841), Charles defeats his brothers Lothar (in spite of the arrival of the Army of Aquitaine in the Imperial ranks -- and at a total loss of 40,000 lives at the battle) and Louis Le Germanique. Charles and Louissigned an alliance on 14 February 842 at Strasbourg. Leaving Strasbourg, the two brothers defeat the imperial army of Lothar just West of Comblence. Lothar leaves Aix-le-Chapelle precipitously, pursued by the two brothers. In Mellecey, not far from Chalon-sur-Saone, Lothar proposes a plan to establish perpetual peace which is acceptable to both Louis and Charles. On 15 June, they sign the preliminary peace document. On 1 October 842, each of them sends 40 commissioners to Metz to forge the official document. Prudence, the Bishop of Troyes, notes that Louis regained Germania in the East, Lothar gets the middle part of the Franc Kingdom, including Italy, and Charles obtains the Western lands (West of the Rhone, including Soissons). After that Charles goes to the Palace in Quierzy, where hemarries Ermentrude.

Charles signed the Treaty of Verdun (843) which split the Kingdom of Charlemagne. By the Treaty, the destiny of Occidental Europe would be heavily influenced to this day. Louis obtains all lands Eastof the Rhine, including the cities of Spire, Worms, Mayence. Lothar gets all the lands extending between the Rhine and the Escaut, the Cambresis, the Hainaut, the country of Mezieres, and all the countships neighboring the Meuse, through the Saone and the Rhone, the Artois and Italy. Charles got all the lands East all the way to Spain. The Kingdom of Charlemagne thus was split forever, with the most serious rift between the germanic lands of Louis, and the French lands of Charles. The intervening lands extending from Frisia to Rome, from the North Sea to the Mediterranean including what wouldbecome Holland, Belgium, Lorraine and Switzerland would become a sore point of contention between these two peoples. The only thing that mattered to Lothar was the fact that both capitals (Aix and Rome) were located within his territory, thus legitimizing the title of Emperor.

Meanwhile, the Normands pillage Nantes and lower Aquitaine. Charles laid siege to Toulouse in vain (May to July 844). The Normands led by Ragnar Lodbrog arrive in Paris and must be heavily bribed toleave. Other Normand armies ravage Toulouse and Bordeaux (burned to the ground in 848). On 6 May 848, Duke Nomenoe proclaims the indepence of the Church of Bretagne and the following year proclaims himself King of Bretagne. Charles fought Brittany (Bretagne) in 845-851 and was victorious. Not liking Pepin II, the people of Aquitaine request Charles' help, and he obliges by accepting the Crown, and on 6 June 848 is consecrated King of Aquitaine, though he could not defend his kingdom against the Normands. He had Charles of Aquitaine jailed (849 in Corbie). In 850 Charles attacks Bretagne and leaves a garrison in Rennes. No sooner does he leave, that Nomenoe takes the city and then takes Nantes as well. The next year, Nomenoe ravages Maine, but, fortunately for Charles, the King of Bretagnedies suddenly on 7 March in Vendome. Charles has Pepin II locked in the Monastery of Saint-Medard de Soissons in 852. The Normands under Godfrid pillage Tours and Angers and penetrate via the Valleyof Escaut all the way to the Seine. The loyalty of Aquitaine shifts in 853, and Louis the German is called upon to help against Charles le Chauve. He in turn defeats Louis and offers Aquitaine his son by Ermentrude, Charles, who would be crowned sovereign in Limoges in October 855. Both Pepin II and Charles d'Aquitaine escape raise armies against Charles le Chauve. Charles fought against Louis for Lorraine (859, 870 [Treaty of Mersen] and 875).

When Louis le Germanique becomes ill in 869 near Rastisbonne, shortly after his nephew Lothar II died, Charles see the opportunity to claim his heritage as Uncle of the deceased. He has himself annointed King of Lorraine in Metz on 9 September, by the Bishop Hincmar. In March, 867, Charles d'Aquitaine dies, and his father Charles le Chauve is recognized as King by the Assembly in Pouilly-sur-Loire. Upon the death of his nephew, Lothar II on 8 August 869, Charles sped to Lotharingia and had himself crowned King of Lotharingia annointed on 9 September in the cathedral at Metz by Bishop Adventiusof Metz and Archbishop Hincmar of Rheims. In 9 August 870, through the Treaty of Meerseen, Louis "Le Germanique" and Charles "Le Chauve" reach an agreeable compromise whereby they divide the lands ofLothar II between themselves, leaving Louis II no part of the inheritance. As soon as Louis II died on 12 August 875, Charles rushed to Italy and received the imperial crown and is annointed by PopeJohn VIII on 25 December 875. In Pavia on 5 January 876, by acclamation of the counts and nobles of Italy, Charles becomes King of Italy. On 31 January 876, the Archbishop of Milan proclaims Charles as Emperor. The French ecclesiasticals and nobles, having some misgivings about Charles' ability to take care of his Kingdom meet in Ponthion. Charles joins them dressed in the attire of the Frankish King. As soon as they declare him elected and recognize his imperial authority, Charles donned the Byzantine crown, and purple vestment of emperor. When Louis le Germanique dies on 28 August 876, Charles claims Lorraine as his own. While on an expedition in Italy against the Sarrasins, through the specific request of Pope Jean VIII, Charles le Chauve dies at the foot of Mount Cenis.

Married on 13 Dec 842 in Quierzy-sur-Oise, Aisne, Ile-de-France, France: Ermentrude d'Orleans , daughter of Odon=Eudes, Count d'Orleans and Ingeltrude de Paris; Ermentrude was crowned Queen of Francein 866, having already produced a number of children including 6 sons but none of them was satisfactory as far as Charles Le Chauve was concerned. By September 866, four of them were dead.

Married on 25 Nov 869 in Aix-la-Chapelle, France: Richilde de Bourgogne, daughter of Beuve=Bouin, Comte de Bourgogne and Richilde d'Arles; The honeymoon is short-lived, as Louis le Germanique demands,as part of his heritage from the death of his nephew Lothar II, a part of Lorraine. Died: on 6 Oct 877 in Avrieux, Dauphine, France, at age 54 Charles II is buried at Saint Denis although originallyhe was buried in Nantua. Before expiring, he named his son, Louis Le Begue as his successor, and the Empress Richilde, crowned by Pope Jean VIII earlier that year, is charged with taking the royal garbs and sword to her step-son. Charles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald, had person sources.1,2,4,5 2 _UID 8602C687-2617-43BC-90CB-2DEB3E600C8A. 2 _UID 5C244380-2B95-4BDE-AB09-89BE4356CC32.
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Citations

  1. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Charles II
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 49-16
  3. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 148-15
  4. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  5. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Ermentrude d' Orleans

F, #8860, b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869

Parents

Family: Charles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald, (b. 13 June 823, d. 6 October 877)

DaughterRothildis d' Aquitaine (b. about 844, d. about 928)
DaughterJudith Princess of France+ (b. about 846, d. 870)
SonLouis II King of King d'Aquitaine France, The Stammerer+ (b. 1 November 846, d. 10 April 879)
DaughterHersent of France+ (b. 865, d. about 890)
DaughterGodehilde Princess of ("Godehilde Carolingian, Princess") France (b. about 868, d. before 907)

Biography

Ermentrude d' Orleans was born on 27 September 830 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France.1 She and Charles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald, were married on 14 December 842 in Crecy, France.2 She died on 6 October 869, at age 39, in St Denis, Paris, Ile-de-France, France.2
2 _UID CB9E3C91-522E-4BC9-83A3-E2CA4B382D86
2 _UID A63EF00F-316D-4F02-8DFF-B608511A559C. Ermentrude d' Orleans had person sources.2,3,4 2 _UID 8602C687-2617-43BC-90CB-2DEB3E600C8A.
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Citations

  1. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Ed Mann, 17 Sep 1998
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 148-15
  3. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  4. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Odo I Comte d' ("Udo Count of Lahngau") Orleans

M, #8861, b. 798, d. 834

Parents

FatherHadrian, Lord of Wormgau (b. about 769, d. 15 February 822)
MotherWaldrat of Hornbach (b. about 769, d. AFT FEB 823/824)

Family: Engeltrude of ("Ingeltrude") Paris (b. 805)

SonGebhard Count of ("Gebhard Count of Lahngau") Niederlandgau (b. 826, d. 879)
DaughterErmentrude d' Orleans+ (b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869)

Biography

Odo I Comte d' ("Udo Count of Lahngau") Orleans was born in 798 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France. He died in 834, at age ~36.1
Odo I Comte d' ("Udo Count of Lahngau") Orleans had person sources.2,1
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Citations

  1. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 148-15

Engeltrude of ("Ingeltrude") Paris

F, #8862, b. 805

Family: Odo I Comte d' ("Udo Count of Lahngau") Orleans (b. 798, d. 834)

SonGebhard Count of ("Gebhard Count of Lahngau") Niederlandgau (b. 826, d. 879)
DaughterErmentrude d' Orleans+ (b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869)

Biography

Engeltrude of ("Ingeltrude") Paris was born in 805 in Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France. She died.
Engeltrude of ("Ingeltrude") Paris had person sources.1,2
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 148-15
  2. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998

Robert "Fortis\The Strong" Duke of Robert "le Fort" Count of Paris France

M, #8863, b. 820, d. 15 September 866

Biography

Robert "FortisThe Strong" Duke of Robert "le Fort" Count of Paris France was born in 820 in of Anjou, Blois, Tours, Auxerre, Nevers, France. He died on 15 September 866, at age ~46, in Brissarthe, Anjou, France (slain by Northmen of Normandy.)1,2,3,4 He was buried in St Martin's, Chateuneuf, France.
1 NAME Robert "Fortis" Comte de /Blois/
2 GIVN Robert "Fortis" Comte de
2 SURN Blois
2 NSFX Duke of France
2 SOUR S416
3 PAGE 14
1 NAME Rutpert IV Count of /Wormgau/
2 GIVN Rutpert IV Count of
2 SURN Wormgau
2 NSFX Comte de Blois
2 SOUR S412
3 PAGE Robert The Strong
2 SOUR S415
3 PAGE 48-17
2 SOUR S416
3 PAGE 14
3 DATA
4 TEXT Robert le Fort, Comte de Blois, Duke of France
2 SOUR S417
3 PAGE Richard Borthwick, 23 Oct 1996
3 DATA
4 TEXT Rutpert IV Count in the Oberrheingau, also known as Robert Count of Paris
2 SOUR S417
3 PAGE Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
3 DATA
4 TEXT Robert le Fort Count



Rutpert IV, Count in Wormgau, seen 836; of Anjou, Blois, Tours, Auxerre, Nevers; killed 15 Sep 866, called Robert the Strong; m. (1); m. (2) c 864, Aelis (or Adelaide) of Tours & Alsace, b. c 819, d.c 866, widow of Conrad I, Count of Aargau and Auxerre, d. 863, daughter of Hugh, Count of Tours, by his wife Bava. He had by (2) wife: (1) Odo or Eudes, King of the Franks (France), and (2) Robert I,Count of Paris 888, King of the Franks 922-3, father of Hugh Magnus. [Ancestral Roots]

Note: Turton names him Robert le Fort, Comte de Blois, & Duke of France, son of Guillaume Comte de Blois; also has son Robert I born by the 1st wife (NN of Italy). Robert "FortisThe Strong" Duke of Robert "le Fort" Count of Paris France had person sources.3
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Citations

  1. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Robert The Strong
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 48-17
  3. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 14
  4. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998

Rothaut Princess of France

F, #8864, b. about 870, d. 22 MAR 927/928

Parents

FatherCharles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald (b. 13 June 823, d. 6 October 877)
MotherRichaut of Metz (b. about 845)

Biography

Rothaut Princess of France was born about 870 in Metz, Moselle, Lorraine, France.1 She died 22 MAR 927/928.2
2 _UID 20F8383A-3802-4449-BB7D-C7FFA8CD23F9
2 _UID 5F80A156-CA05-4665-9E0D-92898ACDDB42. Rothaut Princess of France had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 49-17
  2. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Ed Mann, 17 Sep 1998

Rudolph I King of Burgundy

M, #8865, b. about 860, d. 6 October 911

Parents

FatherConrad II Count of Aargau & Auxerre (b. 825, d. 881)
MotherErmentrude of Alsace (b. about 840)

Biography

Rudolph I King of Burgundy was born about 860 in Bourgogne, France. He died on 6 October 911, at age ~51.1
2 _UID C584CF78-B6F8-43F0-AE7B-1B47D8AB9D08
2 _UID 4CD8F9BD-BECF-491B-AA81-BDB54849950B
2 _UID 6365946D-7B84-483C-96BC-C983701C3EB6


Many people only have one wife (Willa) for Rudolph I. However I am following Turton, who has Rudolph II b. 877 by a "Gisele", who must have been a wife much earlier than Willa. 1 _UID 678A08B9-C751-4356-B878-7AB2B9B13A0E. Rudolph I King of Burgundy had person sources.2 He was born in 847.1
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Citations

  1. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 181
  2. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 8, 181

Conrad II Count of Aargau & Auxerre

M, #8866, b. 825, d. 881

Parents

FatherConrad I, Count of Auxerre (b. 800, d. 16 February 863)
MotherAdela De Tours (b. 805)

Family 1: Ermentrude of Alsace (b. about 840)

SonRudolph I King of Burgundy (b. about 860, d. 6 October 911)
DaughterAdelaide of Auxerre+ (b. about 872, d. 929)

Family 2: Judith of Fiuli (b. 841, d. after 902)

DaughterAdalgunde of Burgundt (b. about 860, d. about 902)

Biography

Conrad II Count of Aargau & Auxerre was born in 825.1 He and Judith of Fiuli were married. He died in 881, at age ~56.1
Conrad II Count of Aargau & Auxerre had person sources.2,1 He was born about 835 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France.
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Citations

  1. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 181
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 155-18

Ermentrude of Alsace

F, #8867, b. about 840

Parents

FatherLuitfried III Count of Upper Alsace (b. 797, d. 865)

Family: Conrad II Count of Aargau & Auxerre (b. 825, d. 881)

SonRudolph I King of Burgundy (b. about 860, d. 6 October 911)
DaughterAdelaide of Auxerre+ (b. about 872, d. 929)

Biography

Ermentrude of Alsace was born about 840 in Alsace, France. She died.
2 _UID 08896317-1C74-4409-A793-8B5ABCFB3C82
2 _UID F6CF8A8B-5AA9-4A65-9969-7CF700957497. Ermentrude of Alsace had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 181

Luitfried III Count of Upper Alsace

M, #8868, b. 797, d. 865

Family:

DaughterErmentrude of Alsace+ (b. about 840)
DaughterAva de ("Ava de Bourges") Tours (b. about 845)

Biography

Luitfried III Count of Upper Alsace was born in 797 in Alsace, France. He died in 865, at age ~68, in Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France.1
Luitfried III Count of Upper Alsace had person sources.1,2
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Citations

  1. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 181
  2. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998

Louis II King of King d'Aquitaine France, The Stammerer

M, #8869, b. 1 November 846, d. 10 April 879

Parents

FatherCharles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald (b. 13 June 823, d. 6 October 877)
MotherErmentrude d' Orleans (b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869)

Family: Adelaide of Paris (b. about 850, d. 10 November 901)

DaughterErmentrude Princess of ("Ermentrude of West Franks") France+ (b. 870)
SonCharles King of France, The Simple (b. 878, d. 929)

Biography

Louis II King of King d'Aquitaine France, The Stammerer, was born on 1 November 846 in France.1 He and Adelaide of Paris were married.2 He and Ansgarde of Burgundy were married. He died on 10 April 879, at age 32, in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France.1
There is a lot of confusion as to the order of Louis' wives; whether they were legitimate marriages; and which was the mother of his various children. For example Ancestral Roots, in line 143-16 states that Adelaide of Paris is the 3rd wife, while in line 148-16, AR states that Adelaide was the 2nd wife. I am following line 143 (3rd wife), which makes her the last wife, and obviously mother of Charles III, since he was born posthumously.

(Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.)
(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387).

Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer) AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue".

Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose powerhad been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustriawho also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia.

Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris. [Note: I have differenty ancestry for Adelaide, see notes under Adelaide]

Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauvehad not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time. Louis the Stammerer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Louis the Stammerer
King of Western Francia
Reign 877–879
Coronation 8 December 877 in Compiègne
Predecessor Charles II
Successor Louis III and Carloman II
Spouse Ansgarde of Burgundy
Adelaide of Paris
Issue
Louis III of France
Carloman II of France
Hildegarde of France
Gisela of France
Ermentrude of France
Charles the Simple
House Carolingian
Father Charles the Bald
Mother Ermentrude of Orléans
Born 1 November 846
Died 10 April 879 (aged 32)
Burial Compiègne Abbey, Saint-Corneille, France,

Louis the Stammerer (French: Louis le Bègue) (1 November 846 – 10 April 879) was the King of Aquitaine and later King of West Francia. He was the eldest son of Charles the Bald and Ermentrude of Orléans. He succeeded his younger brother in Aquitaine in 866 and his father in West Francia in 877, though he was never crowned Emperor. In the French monarchial system, he is considered Louis II.

Twice married, he and his first wife, Ansgarde of Burgundy, had two sons: Louis (born in 863) and Carloman (born in 866), both of whom became kings of France, and two daughters: Hildegarde (born in 864) and Gisela (865–884), who married Robert, Count of Troyes.

With his second wife, Adelaide of Paris, he had one daughter, Ermentrude (875–914) – who was the mother of Cunigunde, wife of the Count Palatine Wigerich of Bidgau; they were the ancestors of the House of Luxemburg —, and a posthumous son, Charles the Simple, who would become, long after his elder brothers' deaths, king of France.

He was crowned on 8 December 877 by Hincmar, archbishop of Rheims, and was crowned a second time in September 878 by Pope John VIII at Troyes while the pope was attending a council there. The pope may even have offered the imperial crown, but it was declined. Louis the Stammerer was said to be physically weak and outlived his father by only two years. He had relatively little impact on politics. He was described "a simple and sweet man, a lover of peace, justice, and religion". In 878, he gave the counties of Barcelona, Girona, and Besalú to Wilfred the Hairy. His final act was to march against the Vikings who were then the scourge of Europe. He fell ill and died on 10 April or 9 April 879 not long after beginning his final campaign. On his death, his realms were divided between his two sons, Carloman and Louis. Louis II King of King d'Aquitaine France, The Stammerer, had person sources.1,3 2 _UID B7D2A46C-9605-4F25-A01D-E963141A9A2E.
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Citations

  1. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Louis II
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 143-16, 148-16
  3. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 7

Giselbert I Duke of Lorraine

M, #8870, b. about 887, d. 2 October 939

Parents

Biography

Giselbert I Duke of Lorraine was born about 887 in Lorraine, France. He died on 2 October 939, at age ~52, in Andernach, Rhineland, Prussia.1,2
2 _UID 39EEFD4B-EF33-4328-B457-FE250DBECE8C
2 _UID 96F0CA5E-F9BD-405B-A35A-CDAC8A4A4D85


Giselbert (stated by Abbe Chaume to be son of Hersent), d. 939, Duke of Lorraine; m. Gerberga of Saxony, d. 5 May 984. (She m. (2) 939, Louis IV d'Outre-Mer. [Ancestral Roots line 140-18]

Note: Alan Wilson appears to have Giselbert as son by Alberade of Lorraine, instead of Hersent. 1 _UID D950FBB6-4303-4708-9CC3-CEC68074EBE7. Giselbert I Duke of Lorraine had person sources.3,1,2
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 140-18
  2. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  3. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 50-19

Regnier I Duke of Lorraine Count of ("Regnier I Duke of Lorraine, Count of Hainault") Hainault, Longneck

M, #8871, b. about 850, d. after 25 October 915

Parents

Family 1: Hersent of France (b. 865, d. about 890)

SonGiselbert I Duke of Lorraine (b. about 887, d. 2 October 939)
SonRegnier II Count of Hainault+ (b. about 890, d. 932)

Family 2: Ermentrude Princess of ("Ermentrude of West Franks") France (b. 870)

DaughterCunegonde of France (b. about 890, d. after 923)

Family 3: Alberade (Albreda) of ("Alberade of Lorraine") Mons (b. about 880, d. 916)

DaughterSymphorienne of Lorraine & Hainault (b. about 906, d. 933)
DaughterAlberade of Hainault+ (b. about 910)

Biography

Regnier I Duke of Lorraine Count of ("Regnier I Duke of Lorraine, Count of Hainault") Hainault, Longneck, was born about 850 in Lorraine, France.1 He and Hersent of France were married in 880 in 1st wife.1 He and Ermentrude Princess of ("Ermentrude of West Franks") France were married about 890 in 2nd wife - possibly.2 He and Alberade (Albreda) of ("Alberade of Lorraine") Mons were married about 896 in 2nd wife.1 He died after 25 October 915 in Meersen, Holland.3,4
Reginar/Regnier I, Margrave between the Meuse and the Scheldt, also Count of Hainault, the Hesbaye and several other areas in Lotharingia (modern Lorraine); lay Abbot or temporal guardian of the Abbeys of St Servais de Maestricht, St Maximin, Chevremont, Echternach and Stavelot. [Burke's Peerage]

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Regnier I, d. aft. 25 Oct 915, bef. 19 Jan 916, Count of Hainault; m. (2) Alberade of Mons; m. (1) Hersent of France, dau. of Charles II. [Ancestral Roots line 140-17]

Note: Stewart Baldwin reports on speculation that Reginar was also married to Erentrude of France. She would probably be his 2nd wife. See notes under Ermentrude.

Note: Turton has Regnier married (apparently as his only wife) to Albreda, who may be Alberade of Mons, his 2nd or 3rd wife. Reginar, Duke of Lorraine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Reignar I Longneck
Duke of Lorraine
Count of Hainaut
Spouse(s) Hersinda
Issue
Gilbert, Duke of Lorraine
Reginar II, Count of Hainaut
Balderic, Bishop of Utrecht
Frederick, Archbishop of Mainz
A Daughter
Detail
Titles and styles
The Duke of Lorraine
Noble family House of Reginar
Father Gilbert, Count of the Maasgau
Mother Ermengarde
Born 850
Died 915 (aged 65)

Reginar I Longneck[1] (c. 850 – 915)[2] was the Duke of Lorraine from 910 until his death. He stands at the head of the clan of Reginarids, an important Lotharingian noble family.

He was the son of Gilbert, Count of the Maasgau, and a daughter of Lothair I of whom the name is not known (Hiltrude, Bertha, Irmgard, and Gisela are good candidates).

He succeeded his father in the Maasgau and was the lay abbot of Echternach between 897 and 915, of Maastricht from before May 898, and of Stablo and Malmedy between 900 and 902.

He was the Count of Mons when in 870 he and Franco, Bishop of Liège, led an army against the Vikings in Walacria. He, as Duke of Hesbaye and Hainault, and Radbold led a Frisian army with against the forces of Rollo a little later, but were forced back to his fortresses.

In an 877 capitulary from Quierzy, he appears alongside his father as one of the regents of the kingdom during Charles the Bald's absence on campaign in Italy. A Reginar appears at the Siege of Paris in 886, but this may be an uncle or nephew. The name "Reginar" or "Reginhar" (French: Régnier or Rainier) was commonplace in his family.

Reginar was originally a supporter of Zwentibold in 895, but he broke with the king in 898. He and some other magnates who had been key to Zwentibold's election three years earlier then took the opportunity provided by the death of Odo of West Francia to invite Charles the Simple to become king in Lotharingia. His lands were confiscated, but he refused to give them up and entrenched himself at Durfost, downstream from Maastricht. Representatives of Charles, Zwentibold, and the Emperor Arnulf met at Sankt Goar and determined that the succession should go to Louis the Child. Zwentibold was killed by the rebels in battle in August 900.

At first, Louis appeared to be opposed to Reginar when he appointed Gebhard as his deputy in Lotharingia, but the two were never at war. In 908, Reginar recuperated the Hainault after the death of Sigard. Then, after the death of Gebhard in 910, in battle with the Magyars, Reginar appears as his successor. He led the magnates in opposing Conrad I of Germany and electing Charles the Simple their king. He was given the title marchio by Charles in 915. He never appears as the Duke of Lorraine, but he was definitely the military commander of the region under Charles. He himself was succeeded by his son Gilbert; however, the Reginarids did not succeed in establishing their supremacy in Lotharingia like the Liudolfings or Liutpoldings did in the duchies of Saxony and Bavaria.
[edit] Family

By his wife Hersinda (or Alberada), who predeceased him, Reginar left the following children:

Gilbert, Duke of Lorraine
Reginar II, Count of Hainaut
Balderic, Bishop of Utrecht
Frederick, Archbishop of Mainz
a daughter, who married Berengar, Count of Namur

[edit] Sources

Reuter, Timothy. Germany in the Early Middle Ages 800–1056. New York: Longman, 1991.
Reuter, Timothy (trans.) The Annals of Fulda. (Manchester Medieval series, Ninth-Century Histories, Volume II.) Manchester: Manchester University Press, 1992.

[edit] References

^ His nickname is variously given in other languages as Langhals, au Long Cou, au Longue Col, Collo-Longus, or Longi-colli. Nevertheless, this nickname does not appear in primary sources and in fact refers to his eponymous grandson and great-grandson.
^ He died at Meerssen between 25 August 915 and 19 January 916. Some sources push the latest possible death date back to 15 November 915. Regnier I Duke of Lorraine Count of ("Regnier I Duke of Lorraine, Count of Hainault") Hainault, Longneck, had person sources.5,6,7,2,8 2 _UID 306E8900-4014-497C-B8AF-9788295FFD11. 2 _UID 8E441AB0-D1F3-4442-A195-82D0764F2EC7. 2 _UID 4413EAF4-0057-4E6A-905E-8B3B21F053F3. He died in 916, at age ~66.8
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 240-17
  2. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Stewart Baldwin, 26 Mar 2002
  3. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 155-17, 240-17
  4. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  5. [S584] Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on, 1 _UID 42C9B718-78A1-4AF8-88E9-52495EC6396C, Treatise on "Hainaut"
  6. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 155-17
  7. [S587] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 2E83EB02-869B-4865-8F30-58255021EA80, 1929
  8. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Giselbert II Count of ("Giselbert I Count of Moselle") Maasgau

M, #8872, b. about 830, d. after 885

Parents

FatherGiselbert I Count of Maasgau (b. after 795, d. 842)
MotherSister of Echard Count of Hesbaye (b. about 810)

Biography

Giselbert II Count of ("Giselbert I Count of Moselle") Maasgau was born about 830 in Maasgau, Meuse Valley, Austrasia now Belgium. He and Ermengarde Princess of Helletrude (Ermengarde) of Lorraine Germany were married in 846.1 He died after 885.2
1 NAME Giselbert II Count of /Darnau/
2 GIVN Giselbert II Count of
2 SURN Darnau
2 SOUR S415
3 PAGE 140-16, 240-16
2 _UID E1DA0D98-C2C9-4C2A-96AE-479AB9D01693
2 _UID E18A0231-857E-412B-AD52-53974DEAB319
2 _UID F7AAE631-AC4E-4750-8990-4E19F2D57827


Giselbert, Count in the valley of the Meuse, ruling Masau/Maasgau in what is now Belgium; married 846 Irmgard, daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor Lothair (grandson of Charlemagne), who granted his son-in-law the Countship of Darnau 863. [Burke's Peerage]

846-863 Count of Darnau. [Ancestral Roots]

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The following was given in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT yahoo.com:

A little flw-up info:
Gislebert II von TOXANDRIEN, Count in the Maasgau & Scheldegau. This is translated from the flwg (well researched) website:

Graf im Maas- und Scheldegau [Ref: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/d0009/g0000902.html#I7898 citing Mittelalterliche Genealogie im Deutschen Reich bis zum Ende der Staufer, Url: http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/] Research note: where or what is Toxandrien?

Comte de Mansurie [Ref: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cousin/html/d0009/g0000902.html#I7898 citing Deux Mille Ans D'Histoire, Edition: Editions Universitaires ( Deux Mille ) publication: Les Pressesde Belgique, 163, Rue du Trone, Bruxelles, 1946] Note: is Mansurie French for Maasgau or somewhere else?

Regards,
Curt 1 _UID 405613EF-65E7-4C1D-AB9E-EE3E526D3F53. Giselbert II Count of ("Giselbert I Count of Moselle") Maasgau had person sources.3,2,4 2 _UID A59E2C8E-4A5F-496D-8E0A-43CF7DD65705. He died in 863, at age ~33.5
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 140-16
  2. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  3. [S587] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 2E83EB02-869B-4865-8F30-58255021EA80, 1929
  4. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19
  5. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 240-16

Ermengarde Princess of Helletrude (Ermengarde) of Lorraine Germany

F, #8873, b. about 830

Parents

FatherLothar I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 809, d. 29 September 855)
MotherErmengarde, Countess Of Tours (b. 809, d. 20 March 851)

Biography

Ermengarde Princess of Helletrude (Ermengarde) of Lorraine Germany was born about 830 in Alsace, Lorraine, France. She and Giselbert II Count of ("Giselbert I Count of Moselle") Maasgau were married in 846.1 She died.
1 _UPD 01 JUN 2010 18:20:54 GMT-6
2 _UID E4BFEC4A-8979-4ACE-A970-85D14A06ED7E
2 _UID 3D09C484-5525-4519-B642-0E436BB76E57. Ermengarde Princess of Helletrude (Ermengarde) of Lorraine Germany had person sources.2,3,4 2 _UID A59E2C8E-4A5F-496D-8E0A-43CF7DD65705.
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Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 140-16
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 140-16, 240-16
  3. [S586] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 0DF73931-6573-4CB1-B6C4-3161008BE9B9, Alan B. Wilson, 30 Dec 1998
  4. [S585] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID BF311B34-1C5E-48F5-BD6E-39AD45DCE100, 19

Hersent of France

F, #8874, b. 865, d. about 890

Parents

FatherCharles II Holy Roman Charles II "the Bald" King of France Emperor, The Bald (b. 13 June 823, d. 6 October 877)
MotherErmentrude d' Orleans (b. 27 September 830, d. 6 October 869)

Family: Regnier I Duke of Lorraine Count of ("Regnier I Duke of Lorraine, Count of Hainault") Hainault, Longneck, (b. about 850, d. after 25 October 915)

SonGiselbert I Duke of Lorraine (b. about 887, d. 2 October 939)
SonRegnier II Count of Hainault+ (b. about 890, d. 932)

Biography

Hersent of France was born in 865 in France. She and Regnier I Duke of Lorraine Count of ("Regnier I Duke of Lorraine, Count of Hainault") Hainault, Longneck, were married in 880 in 1st wife.1 She died about 890, at age ~25.
2 _UID BEA3664E-8946-4BF3-866A-92CFB43A639B
2 _UID D49FE7EA-7C88-41A1-B156-7731E874A5FC. Hersent of France had person sources.2 2 _UID 306E8900-4014-497C-B8AF-9788295FFD11.
Last Edited25 May 2011 11:35:26

Citations

  1. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 712D427B-0751-405F-BE93-7A7BEFB0EB75, 240-17
  2. [S583] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 155-17

Willa of Burgundy

F, #8875, b. about 900

Parents

FatherRichard I Duke of ("Richard de Autun") Burgundy, The Justiciar (b. about 860, d. 1 September 921)
MotherAdelaide of Auxerre (b. about 872, d. 929)

Biography

Willa of Burgundy was born about 900 in Bourgogne, France. She died.
2 _UID A7872128-18D9-446E-8274-62097B486016
2 _UID C7A079D1-54B7-4488-92B2-DE19DFF8D109.
Last Edited25 May 2011 11:35:26