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Rose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres

F, #8776, b. about 1198, d. 1265

Parents

FatherFoubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres (b. about 1178, d. 1205)
MotherIsabel de Briwere (b. about 1180, d. before 10 June 1233)

Family: Richard ("Richard FitzJohn, Baron of Chilham") FitzRoy (b. about 1186, d. after 1232)

DaughterMargaret FitzJohn (b. 1216)
SonRichard de ("Richard de Chilham") Douvres (b. about 1220, d. after 1247)
DaughterIsabel ("Isabel FitzRichard de Chilham") FitzRoy+ (b. 1220, d. 7 July 1276)
DaughterLorette de Dover (b. about 1232, d. about 1275)

Biography

Rose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres was born about 1198 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England. She died in 1265, at age ~67, in Chilham Castle, Kent, England.1
2 _UID F9966E6E-356E-453B-BB7B-450361AB30AD
2 _UID 62206089-8933-42A1-A17E-EFC16798E090


Richard Fitz Roy (natural son of King John), married Rohese, d. 1264/5, daughter of Fulbert of Dover. [Ancestral Roots]

Rose, daughter and heiress of Robert of Dover. [Burke's Peerage]

Note: Rohesia's father could be called Robert, although Ancestral Roots named him Fulbert in two different lines.

Note: CP XIV:87 corrects CP II:127 in renaming her "Rose, daughter of Foubert de Douvres" from her older name "Rohese, daughter of Robert de Dover". This apparently is her latest name. But then CP VIII:518, as corrected by XIV:468, names her "Royce, daughter of Robert de Douvres" (sounds like a Rolls!). Rose/Rohese/Royce? 1 _UID 50D0524B-5ACD-4CE1-AFBA-C7FCA86D82EA. Rose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres had person sources.2,3
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 26-27
  2. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 26-27, 218-27
  3. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, II:127, XIV:87
Family Explorer

Foubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres

M, #8777, b. about 1178, d. 1205

Parents

FatherJohn Fulbert de ("John Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres (b. 1146, d. before 1198)
MotherRoese de Lucy (b. about 1148, d. after 1225)

Family: Isabel de Briwere (b. about 1180, d. before 10 June 1233)

DaughterRose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres+ (b. about 1198, d. 1265)

Biography

Foubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres, was born about 1178 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England. He and Isabel de Briwere were married in 1st husband.1,2 He died in 1205, at age ~27, in Chilham Castle, Kent, England.
2 _UID 7B7C40FD-7381-4DA5-97A1-A0BBFB85BCE6
2 _UID 01E67F7B-E3CB-4DC0-AA3E-1ECCC67582C4


Foubert DE DOUVRES (a). [Complete Peerage XII/2:297-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) G. A. Moriarty, "The First House of De Douvres or De Chilham," in The New England Hist. and Geneal. Reg., vol cv, pp. 39-40. It was formerly believed that the family to which Foubert belonged took its name from Dover, but Round suggested that the name was derived from Douvres in the Bessin and the evidence which he adduced seems to be convincing. 1 _UID DF843A9D-DFE3-4DBF-BCD8-ADF5A1EE2990. Foubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres, had person sources.3,1,4 2 _UID AE6D7415-88B3-4FE5-95A4-57DACB7B4A40.
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Citations

  1. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 2903
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XII/2:298
  3. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 184a-7, 26-27
  4. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, II:127, XIV:87, XII/2:298
Family Explorer

Isabel de Briwere

F, #8778, b. about 1180, d. before 10 June 1233

Parents

FatherWilliam de ("William de Brewer") Briwere (b. about 1145, d. 1226)

Family 1: Foubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres, (b. about 1178, d. 1205)

DaughterRose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres+ (b. about 1198, d. 1265)

Family 2: Baldwin Wake (b. about 1180, d. before 20 July 1213)

SonHugh Wake (b. about 1202, d. before 18 December 1241)

Biography

Isabel de Briwere was born about 1180 in Stoke, Devon, England. She and Foubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres, were married in 1st husband.1,2 She and Baldwin Wake were married after 1205 in 2nd husband.3,4 She died before 10 June 1233.3,2
2 _UID 9DEBE9D4-0A10-473C-BE74-2B06612BF247
2 _UID 58E58101-D5D3-42C0-9CF2-817E0080ADE1
2 _UID 296FAEA9-0A92-447D-84E2-433607D8F89D


Isabel (died in or after 1224), eventual coheiress of estates that included the Manor of Blisworth, Northants which remained with the Wakes till Henry VIII's reign, widow of Foubert de Douvres and daughter of William Briwere, Sheriff of Bucks, Berks, Derbys, Devon, Nottingham and Oxon. [Burke's Peerage]

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He [Baldwin Wake] married Isabel, widow of Foubert DE DOUVRES (a), daughter of William BRIWERRE, by his wife Beatrice. He died before 20 July 1213. Isabel was living, 1224, but died before 10 June 1233. [Complete Peerage XII/2:297-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) G. A. Moriarty, "The First House of De Douvres or De Chilham," in The New England Hist. and Geneal. Reg., vol cv, pp. 39-40. It was formerly believed that the family to which Foubert belonged took its name from Dover, but Round suggested that the name was derived from Douvres in the Bessin and the evidence which he adduced seems to be convincing. 1 _UID 67399A74-B7A8-48BF-8C69-6E2B9C27E796. Isabel de Briwere had person sources.3,5,2 2 _UID AE6D7415-88B3-4FE5-95A4-57DACB7B4A40. 2 _UID 72D5B1CF-0559-4760-9F4C-17575292EE39. She died after 1224.5,2
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Citations

  1. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 2903
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XII/2:298
  3. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 184a-7
  4. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XII/2:299
  5. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 2904
Family Explorer

John Fulbert de ("John Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres

M, #8779, b. 1146, d. before 1198

Parents

FatherMr de Douvres (b. about 1120)

Family: Roese de Lucy (b. about 1148, d. after 1225)

SonFoubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres+ (b. about 1178, d. 1205)

Biography

John Fulbert de ("John Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres was born in 1146 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England. He and Roese de Lucy were married before 1177. He died before 1198.
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Family Explorer

Roese de Lucy

F, #8780, b. about 1148, d. after 1225

Parents

FatherGeoffrey de Lucy (b. about 1120, d. before 1179)
MotherUnknown First Wife (b. about 1130)

Family: John Fulbert de ("John Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres (b. 1146, d. before 1198)

SonFoubert de Fulbert (Robert) de Dover, Baron of Chilham Douvres+ (b. about 1178, d. 1205)

Biography

Roese de Lucy was born about 1148 in Ongar, Essex, England. She and John Fulbert de ("John Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres were married before 1177. She died after 1225.
2 _UID E1C185A9-1EC7-448C-92E3-87BF432CACCE
2 _UID D457922E-DE30-4432-991A-CB12F03C1EFD


Lewis C Loyd points out that, according to Robert de Torigni, when the Justiciar entered religion he was succeeded by his grandson Richard, son of Geoffrey. Roese therefore succeeded her brother, nother father or grandfather, and the inference to be drawn is that Richard the younger and Roese were Geoffrey's children by a first wife, and Geoffrey the younger his son by a second wife. [CompletePeerage VIII:257 note (c)] 1 _UID D46C20D4-B683-495E-85F7-A91FDD3BFC4F. Roese de Lucy had person sources.1 2 _UID FC9790EA-D5C3-4B47-8458-43308AAA7D1F.
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Citations

  1. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, VIII:257 (c)
Family Explorer

Geoffrey de Lucy

M, #8781, b. about 1120, d. before 1179

Parents

FatherRichard "The Loyal" de Lucy (b. about 1098, d. 14 July 1179)
MotherRohese de Boulogne (b. about 1104, d. before 1179)

Family 1: Unknown First Wife (b. about 1130)

DaughterRoese de Lucy+ (b. about 1148, d. after 1225)
DaughterMaud (Matilda) de Lucy (b. about 1154)

Family 2: Unknown Second Wife or Mistress (b. about 1140)

SonGeoffrey de Lucy (b. about 1162, d. 1234)

Biography

Geoffrey de Lucy was born about 1120 in Dunmow, Essex, England. He and Unknown First Wife were married about 1145 in 1st wife. He and Unknown Second Wife or Mistress were married about 1160 in 2nd wife. He died before 1179 in Newington, Kent, England (dvp.)
2 _UID 6E6DDD78-6B7B-4469-B192-0457B2F2D4B5
2 _UID F07E6F45-2FA8-4740-91DB-56421F65872D


GEOFFREY DE LUCY (b), of Newington, son of Geoffrey, son and heir of Richard DE LUCY "the Loyal," justiciar of England (c). [Complete Peerage VIII:257-8, XIV:457, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(c) Bracton's Note Book, c 1159, which quotes verbatim the official report of a verdict given in Hilary term (1223) . . . Lewis C Loyd points out that, according to Robert de Torigni, when the Justiciar entered religion he was succeeded by his grandson Richard, son of Geoffrey. Roese therefore succeeded her brother, not her father or grandfather, and the inference to be drawn is that Richard the younger and Roese were Geoffrey's children by a first wife, and Geoffrey the younger his son by a second wife. The available evidence does not, however, exclude the possibility that the younger Geoffrey was illegitimate. 1 _UID DD7CB9D5-C044-4A4A-A271-2A5A96452FD2. Geoffrey de Lucy had person sources.1 2 _UID 67FBAAE2-E805-4B87-939B-A571EFDFF040. 2 _UID 1D94465C-5A1E-493F-B1AB-59F1B84FA31C.
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Citations

  1. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, VIII:257
Family Explorer

Fulbert de ("Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres

M, #8782, b. about 1080, d. about 1130

Family:

SonMr de Douvres+ (b. about 1120)

Biography

Fulbert de ("Fulbert de Dover, Lord of Chilham") Douvres was born about 1080 in Douvres, Calvados, Normandy, France. He died about 1130, at age ~50, in Chilham, Kent, England.
2 _UID D5235D26-8A3C-4E38-BAF6-DC1CD72B860A
2 _UID D24AE74B-7081-487F-8B8D-2CFBD7E8CDF3.
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Thomas I "The Observer" de Berkeley

M, #8783, b. 1170, d. 29 November 1243

Parents

FatherMaurice "Make Peace" ("Maurice FitzHarding de Berkeley") FitzHarding (b. about 1120, d. 16 June 1190)
MotherAlice de Berkeley (b. about 1140, d. after 16 June 1190)

Family: Joan de Somery (b. 1191, d. after 1273)

SonMaurice I "The Resolute" de Berkeley+ (b. 1218, d. 4 April 1281)

Biography

Thomas I "The Observer" de Berkeley was born in 1170 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England.1,2 He and Joan de Somery were married about 1217.3,4 He died on 29 November 1243, at age ~73.1,3,2 He was buried in Bristol Cathedral, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
Thomas, feudal Lord of Berkeley; inherited all of his [elder brother Robert's] lands on latter's death (dsp in 13 May 1220) except Berkeley, which he did not obtain till 1223. [Burke's Peerage]

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HOLDERS of the CASTLE of BERKELEY (VII)

Thomas de Berkeley, feudal Lord of Berkeley, brother and heir; who "may bee called Thomas the Observer or Temporiser", b. about 1170. He obtained livery of his brother's lands, but not till 1223, ofthe Castle of Berkeley. He sustained many suits at law, and by his prudent conduct greatly improved his estate. He m. about 1217, Joan, daughter of Sir Ralph de Somery, of Dudley, co. Worcester, byMargaret, sister of William (Marshal), Earl of Pembroke, and daughter of John FitzGilbert, styled also John the Marshal. He d. 29 Nov 1243, aged about 73, and was buried at St. Augustine's, aforesaid. His widow was living 1273-4. [Complete Peerage II:126-7, XIV:87]

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Thomas de Berkeley, in the 8th of Henry III (1223-4), upon giving his two nephews as pledges for his fidelity, had restitution of Berkeley Castle. His lordship m. about the year 1217, Joan, dau. of Ralph de Somery, Lord of Campden, co. Gloucester, and niece of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, and dying, aged seventy-six, November 29, 1243, left issue, Maurice, his heir; Thomas, d. s. p.; Robert;Henry, d. s. p.; William; Richard; and one dau. Margaret, wife of Sir Anselm Basset. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 44,Berkeley, Viscount Berkeley, Earl of Nottingham, and Marquess of Berkeley] 1 _UID 97AE1916-52B8-4861-9C9B-803FF7FDB9BB. Stone photo present

Thomas Berkeley

Birth: 1170
Death: Nov. 29, 1243

Nicknamed Thomas "The Observer Or Temporiser".


Family links:
Spouse:
Jone de Somery Berkeley (1191 - 1276)

Children:
Maurice Berkeley (1218 - 1281)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Bristol Cathedral
Bristol
Gloucestershire, England


Created by: julia&keld
Record added: Jun 24, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 27786483. Thomas I "The Observer" de Berkeley had person sources.1,2 2 _UID 54248B63-8E2C-482E-90F3-6652AD9CF53E.
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 26-28
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, II:126-7
  3. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 254
  4. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, II:216-7
Family Explorer

Joan de Somery

F, #8784, b. 1191, d. after 1273

Parents

FatherRalph de Somery (b. about 1151, d. 29 September 1210)
MotherMargaret Marshal FitzGilbert (b. about 1166, d. after 1242)

Family: Thomas I "The Observer" de Berkeley (b. 1170, d. 29 November 1243)

SonMaurice I "The Resolute" de Berkeley+ (b. 1218, d. 4 April 1281)

Biography

Joan de Somery was born in 1191 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. She and Thomas I "The Observer" de Berkeley were married about 1217.1,2 She died after 1273 in St Augustine's Priory, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.1,3 She was buried in Bristol Cathedral, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
He [Thomas de Berkeley] m. about 1217, Joan, daughter of Sir Ralph de Somery, of Dudley, co. Worcester, by Margaret, sister of William (Marshal), Earl of Pembroke, and daughter of John FitzGilbert, styled also John the Marshal. He d. 29 Nov 1243, aged about 73, and was buried at St. Augustine's, aforesaid. His widow was living 1273-4. [Complete Peerage II:126-7, XIV:87] 1 _UID F7791834-372B-404B-B0C3-FCACC489C3E7. Stone photo present

Jone de Somery Berkeley


Birth: 1191
Gloucestershire, England
Death: May 22, 1276
Bristol
Gloucestershire, England

Daughter of Sir Ralph de Somery, Baron Dudley (1151-1210) and Margaret Marshall. Wife of Thomas de Berkeley, and mother of Sir Maurice de Berkeley. Secondly, wife of William Agullion and mother of William.


Family links:
Spouse:
Thomas Berkeley (1170 - 1243)*

Children:
Maurice Berkeley (1218 - 1281)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Bristol Cathedral
Bristol
Gloucestershire, England


Created by: julia&keld
Record added: Jun 24, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 27786488. Joan de Somery had person sources.4,2 2 _UID 54248B63-8E2C-482E-90F3-6652AD9CF53E.
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Citations

  1. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 254
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, II:216-7
  3. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, II:126-7
  4. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 26-28
Family Explorer

Baldwin Wake

M, #8785, b. about 1180, d. before 20 July 1213

Family: Isabel de Briwere (b. about 1180, d. before 10 June 1233)

SonHugh Wake (b. about 1202, d. before 18 December 1241)

Biography

Baldwin Wake was born about 1180 in Bourne, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.1 He and Isabel de Briwere were married after 1205 in 2nd husband.1,2 He died before 20 July 1213 in Gascony, France (killed by crossbow while besieging a caslte.)1,3,4
2 _UID 8747496C-C51E-434D-83B6-5335991261F9
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Baldwin Wake; feudal Lord of Bourne; apparently imprisoned by King John 1207; pardoned by 1210 and regranted his English lands, retaining also his Guernsey ones but losing his Norman ones (his effortsto retain which by currying favour with the French probably occasioning his quarrel with John) following the overrunning of John's territory in Normandy by the French 1206; married Isabel (died in orafter 1224), eventual coheiress of estates that included the Manor of Blisworth, Northants which remained with the Wakes till Henry VIII's reign, widow of Foubert de Douvres and daughter of William Briwere, Sheriff of Bucks, Berks, Derbys, Devon, Nottingham and Oxon, and was allegedly killed by a crossbow bolt before 20 July 1213 while besieging a castle in Gascony. [Burke's Peerage]

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BALDWIN WAKE, son and heir, made fine in 1201, together with his grandfather William du Hommet, for possession of his lands in England and Normandy, promising not to marry without the King's consent.In August 1204 he was allowed to have his English lands if he gave 4 hostages to Crown representatives; but in 1207 he came into conflict with the King, being forced to choose between England and Normandy. His lands were seized in March 1206/7 and he was ordered to leave the realm, but he seems to have been imprisoned in June following. It is not known when he was restored to royal favour but at Michaelmas 1210 he appears among the witnesses of a charter.

He married Isabel, widow of Foubert DE DOUVRES (a), daughter of William BRIWERRE, by his wife Beatrice. He died before 20 July 1213. Isabel was living, 1224, but died before 10 June 1233. [Complete Peerage XII/2:297-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(a) G. A. Moriarty, "The First House of De Douvres or De Chilham," in The New England Hist. and Geneal. Reg., vol cv, pp. 39-40. It was formerly believed that the family to which Foubert belonged took its name from Dover, but Round suggested that the name was derived from Douvres in the Bessin and the evidence which he adduced seems to be convincing. 1 _UID D51E985F-9A92-4D90-865D-CED2A61A3DE4. Baldwin Wake had person sources.1,5,4 2 _UID 72D5B1CF-0559-4760-9F4C-17575292EE39.
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 184a-7
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XII/2:299
  3. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 2904
  4. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XII/2:297-8
  5. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 2903-4
Family Explorer

Marjorie (Margaret) de ("Margaret de Brewer") Briwere

F, #8786, b. about 1176, d. before 1237

Parents

FatherWilliam de ("William de Brewer") Briwere (b. about 1145, d. 1226)

Biography

Marjorie (Margaret) de ("Margaret de Brewer") Briwere was born about 1176 in Stoke, Devon, England. She died before 1237 in Holsworthy, Devon, England.1
2 _UID 87D8B9C5-0D10-453C-A3F1-861F595D1A48
2 _UID FC77F994-8195-456F-8AEC-B0FE9FC4A08F
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Margery (divorce 12--), sister of William Briwere and widow of (a) ? de la Ferte and (b) Eudes de Dammartin (died 1225). [Burke's Peerage]

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Marjorie, widow 1st of William de la Ferte, d. 1216, 2nd of Eudes de Dammartin, d. 1225, daughter and eventual coheir of William de Briwere, the elder, d. 1226, lord of Horsley, co. Derby. Geoffrey and Marjorie were divorced. She was living 1233, dead 1237. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [Geoffrey de Say] married, 2ndly, Margery, widow of [i] . . . DE LA FERTÉ, (ii) Eudes DE DAMMARTIN (died 1225), sister and coheir of William BRIWERRE, by whom he was divorced. He died in 1230, in Poitou, shortly before 26 August, [? 19 August] and was buried at the Hospital of St. Mary, Dover, to which he had given his manor of Coldred with his body. [Complete Peerage XI:468-70, XIV:571, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: Carolyn CC, in her post to SGM, has Margaret born in 1172 to a 1st wife of William de Briwere, who she says is Joan de Vernon. But she has William b. 1178 & Joan b. 1149 (doesn't make sense).I think that she is referring to William de Briwere's son William who is said to have married Joan de Vernon (who would have been born much later than 1149, say 1180). However, William certainly could have had a wife prior to Beatrice, and Marjorie/Margaret could well have been a daughter by the 1st wife. 1 _UID CF1F0A71-CD28-4CDC-A20B-AC9EA1A6992F. Marjorie (Margaret) de ("Margaret de Brewer") Briwere had person sources.1,2 She was born about 1172.3
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Citations

  1. [S562] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 1 _UID 48301229-8254-4C9F-8F6B-3B33C146C45E, 16a-1
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XI:470
  3. [S567] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 7CB8D94E-6C08-445F-869C-BC19733569DF, Carolyn C.C., 9 May 1997
Family Explorer

William Paynel

M, #8787, b. about 1102, d. before 1148

Parents

FatherFulk ("Fulk Paganel") Paynel (b. about 1052, d. 1138)
MotherBeatrice ("Beatrice FitzAnsculf Heiress of Dudley") FitzAnsculf (b. about 1075)

Biography

William Paynel was born about 1102 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England. He died before 1148 in Bampton, Tiverton, Devon, England.1
2 _UID E6982A3F-AC16-4DC6-87C6-0FD620DCDDF5
2 _UID 09CC6194-4B14-44D4-AA81-517CAA7EC157


The Paynels of Bampton, Devon, were almost certainly a younger branch of the Paynels of Dudley. They were descended from William Paynel who acquired the honor of Bampton by marriage with Juliane, daughter of Robert de Bampton, son of Walter or Walcelin de Douai, by his wife Emma. The inheritance eventually passed to John de Cogan. [Complete Peerage X:321] 1 _UID 0D0ABBF9-5DAE-4CAE-88D4-E5B4528ED78D. William Paynel had person sources.2,3
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Citations

  1. [S567] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 7CB8D94E-6C08-445F-869C-BC19733569DF, John Ravilious (Therav3), 22 May 2003
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, X:321
  3. [S565] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 1 _UID 8472A244-6F79-4345-8D1B-DA346C12E1BB, 143
Family Explorer

Richard de ("Richard de Chilham") Douvres

M, #8788, b. about 1220, d. after 1247

Parents

FatherRichard ("Richard FitzJohn, Baron of Chilham") FitzRoy (b. about 1186, d. after 1232)
MotherRose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres (b. about 1198, d. 1265)

Biography

Richard de ("Richard de Chilham") Douvres was born about 1220 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England. He died after 1247.1
2 _UID 4ED0DE9E-3DAE-4AF4-9583-8152E34993BE
2 _UID 2409DFE3-4951-4897-B1AB-DADB2F62FE1E


Richard of Dover/of Chilham (Kent) (son of Richard FitzRoy (died in or after 1232) by Rose, daughter and heiress of Robert of Dover, illegitimate son of King John) by Maud, Countess of Angus in her own right. [Burke's Peerage] 1 _UID 8AE04C1A-02B2-4B9E-AFD7-62646F00C3F9. Richard de ("Richard de Chilham") Douvres had person sources.2,3,4
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Citations

  1. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, I:305, XIV:46
  2. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 2716
  3. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, X:336
  4. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, I:146
Family Explorer

Alexander de Berkeley

M, #8789, b. about 1080, d. about 1136

Parents

FatherRoger I "Senior" de Berkeley (b. about 1040, d. 1093)
MotherRissa (b. about 1044)

Biography

Alexander de Berkeley was born about 1080 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England. He died about 1136, at age ~56, in Towie, Banffshire, Scotland.
2 _UID 8233AAC4-95E1-4C5D-ABD8-44523804937A
2 _UID 159C86DE-4E40-4EF2-9A1E-FAE21E51D509.
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Family Explorer

Lorette de Dover

F, #8790, b. about 1232, d. about 1275

Parents

FatherRichard ("Richard FitzJohn, Baron of Chilham") FitzRoy (b. about 1186, d. after 1232)
MotherRose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres (b. about 1198, d. 1265)

Biography

Lorette de Dover was born about 1232 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England. She died about 1275, at age ~43, in Winteringham, Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England.
2 _UID 6EDD61A0-0C1D-4CF1-9EEB-7711F86354DE
2 _UID C20B2D9D-5C85-4D3F-8618-3F53E7B4F382


He [William Marmion] married, before Whitsuntide 1248, Lorette, daughter of Royce, daughter and heir of Foubert DE DOUVRES. He was apparently dead by I 276, in his mother's lifetime. [Complete Peerage VIII:517-8, XIV:468, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] 1 _UID 80E55493-5FF7-4AE9-9C55-76478E9453D7. Lorette de Dover had person sources.1,2
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 218-28
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, VIII:517-8
Family Explorer

Ralph de Somery

M, #8791, d. 1212

Parents

FatherRalph de Somery (b. about 1151, d. 29 September 1210)
MotherMargaret Marshal FitzGilbert (b. about 1166, d. after 1242)

Biography

Ralph de Somery was born in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England. He died in 1212 in (dsp.)1
Ralph de Somery, 1st son and heir. He m. Ida or Idonea, daughter of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury. He d. bef. 1220, when his widow had m. William de Beauchamp, of Bedford. [Complete PeerageXII/1:111, XIV:586]. Ralph de Somery had person sources.1,2
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 122a-29
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XII/1:111
Family Explorer

Hugh Wake

M, #8792, b. about 1202, d. before 18 December 1241

Parents

FatherBaldwin Wake (b. about 1180, d. before 20 July 1213)
MotherIsabel de Briwere (b. about 1180, d. before 10 June 1233)

Biography

Hugh Wake was born about 1202 in Bourne, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England. He died before 18 December 1241 in Holy Land on Crusade.1,2,3,4
2 _UID D1AAF2B4-B8F1-4936-9B6A-F6A7716A5B10
2 _UID BAB51084-5FD6-45D1-8181-6D2BC5609D03


Hugh Wake; feudal Lord of Bourne; Sheriff of Yorks, Constable of Scarborough Castle 1239; married by 29 May 1229 Joan (married 2nd by 5 Feb 1243/4 Hugh Bigod, Chief Justiciar of England and died 1276,being by him mother of Roger Bigod, 5th and last Earl of Norfolk of the 1140-41 creation), eldest daughter and coheir of Nicholas de Stuteville by Devorguille, daughter of Roland, feudal Lord of Galloway and Constable of Scotland, and died by 18 Dec 1241 on Crusade in the Holy Land. [Burke's Peerage]

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HUGH WAKE, son and heir, a minor at his father's death, was granted protection, April 1230, to accompany the King to Brittany. On 10 June 1233 he inherited, by right of his mother Isabel, one-fifth ofthe lands of his uncle, William Briwerre the younger. In March 1233/4 he was sent with the Earl of Lincoln to garrison Shrewsbury and was among those forbidden to attend a tournament at Northampton,September following. He complained to the King in 1235 about the seizure of goods from his estates in Guernsey; was Sheriff of Yorkshire and Constable of Scarborough Castle, 9 February-26 June 1239; and accompanied Simon de Montfort on Crusade in 1240, journeying through Italy and sailing from Brindisi.

He married, without Royal licence, before 29 May 1229, Joan, 1st daughter and coheir of Nicholas DE STUTEVILLE, of Liddell, Cumberland, by Devorguille, daughter of Roland, LORD OF GALLOWAY. He died before 18 December 1241 in the Holy Land. Joan married, 2ndly, before 5 February 1243/4, Hugh BIGOD, Chief Justiciar of England, who died shordy before 7 May 1266. She died shortly before 6 April 1276.[Complete Peerage XII/2:298-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Held the barony of Bourne in Lincolnshire; was sheriff of Yorkshire and constable of Scarborough Castle February 9-June 26, 1239. He served with Henry III, accompanying him to Brittany in April 1230 and accompanied Simon de Montfort on a Crusade in 1240, traveling through Italy and sailing from Brindisi to the Holy Land where he died. 1 _UID D8D8C4C2-C4BF-44AC-8790-BD1C908E6437. Hugh Wake had person sources.1,2,3,4
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 184a-8, 69-29
  2. [S562] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 1 _UID 48301229-8254-4C9F-8F6B-3B33C146C45E, 3-3
  3. [S563] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1 _UID 3D7E0472-93D8-49D2-8287-90E282C71E59, 2904
  4. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XII/2:298-9
Family Explorer

John de Stourton

M, #8793, b. before 1334, d. after 1380

Parents

FatherWilliam de Stourton (b. about 1290, d. after 1343)
MotherJoan (Jane) Vernon (b. about 1298, d. before 1374)

Family: Lettice (b. about 1335, d. BEF 18 MAR 1373/1374)

SonWilliam de Stourton (b. before 1361, d. 18 September 1413)
SonJohn de Stourton+ (b. after 1361, d. 1405)

Biography

John de Stourton was born before 1334 in Stourton with Gasper, Mere, Wiltshire, England.1 He and Alice were married BEF 18 MAR 1373/1374 in 2nd wife.1 He and Lettice were married in 1st wife.1 He died after 1380 in Stavordale Abbey, Somerset, England.1
2 _UID B30680B9-C49B-4870-8D16-20F2E0BC5530
2 _UID 785E2607-7385-4ACA-B7FE-6086EF79936C


At this point the history both of the manor and of the family of Stourton becomes obscure. The pedigree gives Ralph two sons, Eudes (who is said to have d. young) and William, whose son John, according to the "History of the Noble House of Stourton", was sheriff in 1377; and this may be correct. [Complete Peerage XII/1:297]

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John de Stourton (h), 1st son and heir. From 1355 to 1378 he was in commissions for Somerset. In 1374 he founded a chantry for himself, his wife and his parents (j). From 1377 to 1379 he was escheator for Somerset and Dorset. In 1380 he was licenced to acquire land in Preston Plucknett. He m. 1stly Lettice (m); and 2ndly Alice, who survived him. The date and place of his death are unknown. [Complete Peerage XII/1:300]


(h) He is described by his younger son John Stourton of Preston Plucknett as "sometimes Lord of Stourton".

(j) See note "f" above, which is: (f) Where it is set out an impeximus and confirmation by the Dean and Chapter of Wells of an appropriation made 18 Mar 1374 of a chantry for the souls of John de Stourton and Alice is wife, William de Stourton and Joan his wife (both deceased, the parents of John), his brethren and sisters, and Lettice and Alice his wives.

(m) See note "f" above. She was probably the mother of his elder son William, who is described in the reference given in preceding note as William son of John, not of John and Alice.

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Note: The approximate birth of John was definitely bef. 1334, because he was of age and in commissions by 1355. His eldest son William, heir of Stourton, was active on various commissions by "1382" (ie. of age in 1382 so he was b. bef 1361), "d. 18 Sep 1413", and didn't marry until "bef. 1398", his son & heir being "b. abt 1399". The items in quotes are Complete Peerage dates. Of course he could have married well before 1398. William refused to take the position of Speaker of the House of Commons because he was infirm in 1413, I think he could have been 50 or more then. 1 _UID 417C2A62-7010-4CD7-9C8A-FBBBC3687B17. John de Stourton had person sources.2 2 _UID 5D531FB6-6C7E-47C9-A458-D6B27885EA7E. 2 _UID 9C08F4C2-90F4-480F-84ED-E3BDAE7EC478.
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Citations

  1. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, 1 _UID BC506622-9352-4245-98EE-A1E7066EA6F7, XII/1:300
  2. [S564] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Lt, XII/1:297 & 300
Family Explorer

Miss de Briwere

F, #8794, b. about 1132

Parents

FatherHenry de Briwere (b. about 1113)
MotherMiss Walton (b. about 1115)

Biography

Miss de Briwere was born about 1132 in Horsley, Belper, Derbyshire, England. She died.
2 _UID 695B5CB9-C5BE-445B-9854-4A4F784862BB
2 _UID E95AC043-B6A5-4F9B-A2D3-D7CD78D7FBEB. Miss de Briwere had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S566] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1 _UID 7FA06919-CE35-4579-BDA1-D26903E88A5C, 246-28
Family Explorer

Margaret FitzJohn

F, #8795, b. 1216

Parents

FatherRichard ("Richard FitzJohn, Baron of Chilham") FitzRoy (b. about 1186, d. after 1232)
MotherRose de ("Rohese de Dover, Heiress of Chilham") Douvres (b. about 1198, d. 1265)

Biography

Margaret FitzJohn was born in 1216 in Chilham Castle, Kent, England. She died.
2 _UID 986A4DD2-797A-4106-A2DD-45957F59BDB0
2 _UID 2BF2E4E7-F95A-46AF-AEF4-8C42BCBD0DFE.
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Family Explorer

Robert Mauduit

M, #8796, b. about 1138, d. 1191

Parents

FatherWilliam Mauduit (b. about 1092, d. BEF FEB 1157/1158)
MotherMaud Heiress de ("Maud Hanslape") Hanslope (b. about 1108)

Biography

Robert Mauduit was born about 1138 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England. He died in 1191, at age ~53, in Warminster, Wiltshire, England.1
2 _UID 15ECB05D-45C4-47F9-83B4-CE340A5C1CCC
2 _UID EDFFC6B1-1F75-47A5-9F6E-97182337436D. Robert Mauduit had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S567] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 7CB8D94E-6C08-445F-869C-BC19733569DF, John Ravilious (Therav3), 12 Jun 2005
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Nicholas FitzRoger

M, #8797, b. about 1196, d. 1261

Parents

FatherRoger de ("Roger FitzNicholas, Lord of Hull") Berkeley (b. about 1150, d. 1230)
MotherHawise Paynel (b. about 1150, d. before 1210)

Biography

Nicholas FitzRoger was born about 1196 in Hull, Nympsfield, Gloucestershire, England. He died in 1261, at age ~65.
2 _UID 7C38AA4A-A5F8-46FD-A69E-BA289D40534C
2 _UID B4B38C8C-97D4-4C64-A66F-F739A7D1688A.
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Family Explorer

Nicholas FitzHarding de Meriet

M, #8798, b. about 1100, d. before 1171

Parents

FatherHarding FitzEadnoth (b. about 1065, d. after 1125)
MotherLivida of Gloucester (b. about 1070)

Biography

Nicholas FitzHarding de Meriet was born about 1100 in Merriott, Chard, Somerset, England. He died before 1171.1
2 _UID 3235515C-12E1-458B-8470-B3B2710A5A33
2 _UID 7B6DF304-5A7A-40CA-AD13-FAE19A792C58. Nicholas FitzHarding de Meriet had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S567] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, 1 _UID 7CB8D94E-6C08-445F-869C-BC19733569DF, Richard Borthwick, 2 Sep 2000
Family Explorer

Letitia de Berkeley

F, #8799, b. about 1145

Parents

FatherRoger III de Berkeley (b. about 1105, d. 1170)
MotherHawise de Beaumont (b. about 1129, d. 24 April 1197)

Biography

Letitia de Berkeley was born about 1145 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England. She died.
2 _UID D64DA3B9-4C0A-4D32-8436-0F1EDB9B38A7
2 _UID BCCAF4C8-9721-4919-B5AD-7E6F2B608D90.
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Family Explorer

Alice Mauduit

F, #8800, b. about 1135, d. about 1209

Parents

FatherWilliam Mauduit (b. about 1092, d. BEF FEB 1157/1158)
MotherMaud Heiress de ("Maud Hanslape") Hanslope (b. about 1108)

Biography

Alice Mauduit was born about 1135 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England. She died about 1209, at age ~74.
2 _UID 9302AD9C-BFA4-4078-8B41-097A1E285127
2 _UID A1D18F51-145D-4430-9E2F-86FF26937F13. Alice Mauduit had person sources.1
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Citations

  1. [S577] Victoria County History of Northampton, Volume IV, ed. L.F. Salzman, 1937, online at www.british-history.ac.uk, 1 _UID E26A57BE-13F9-4022-9A3D-EFF13EF0892D, 29-39
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